Monday, February 11, 2008

Morons, More Morons and Just Enough Codeine to Give You That Pop

Shit Tickets
OK, let's clear up this ticket horseshit a little. A lot of people seem to be unconcerned about the Jays plan to offer single-game tickets to fans in Boston and Detroit before putting them up for sale to the general public in Toronto. In way, they're right. There almost certainly won't be any sort of revolt over this. The fifteen thousand or so fans who actually show up regularly at Rogers Centre have weathered enough shitty baseball and Ryan Greer fuckfaces over the years to have proven their blind loyalty, regardless of whatever bullshit the front office tries to pull.

Yeah, it's a nifty little cash grab. And no, opening day won't available to the Massholes. And true, nobody has said whether the Detroit and Boston fans will be restricted to certain seats (when the fucking Jays offer them single game tickets before the general public in Toronto). And the crowds for those games always feature a ton of visiting fans anyway. Plus, the twelve fans who subscribe to some Jays mailing list are apparently getting the same privilege. So is this really such a big deal?

In a word: fuck yes.

Largely, it's the principle of the goddamn thing. We grudgingly accept that fans of other teams are going to flock here-- especially when their own tickets are difficult to obtain. That's fine. In fact, I'd probably think this was an excellent idea if the visiting fans weren't being offered tickets first. But that's just it! What the fuck is that about? Why should I have shittier seats than a bunch of fucking Massholes? Why should the fans closest to the field be booing our players? I mean... fuck off!

And the argument that every ticket sold helps the team just doesn't fly with me. Why did people rave about the atmosphere at BMO Field all last summer? It certainly wasn't because of the product on the field. It was because the whole stadium sang and cheered in unison.

That's the kind of atmosphere every team should strive for. Telling your own fans to take a backseat while you sell tickets to the visitors first is really fucking obviously not the way to get there.

The Star Hits Mid-Season Form
Holy fuck. I'll be honest with you, there's a part of me that really thinks my shitting on Dick Griffin thing is getting a bit tired, and is maybe even a bit too rude. But then there are days when I read something of his that is just so fucking idiotic that I can't let it pass without comment. I know that I shouldn't, and I know that in a week I'll look back at it and think, Jeez, Stoeten, do you really need to give ol' Griff such a hard time? For fuck sakes, you only disagree about baseball, is this kind of response seriously necessary?

In a word: fuck yes.

Granted, the comment that provoked today's subject may not have been actually written by Griffin. It's from the Star's Jays Preview piece, which is credited to Griffin, Cathal Kelly, and Mark Zwolinski. But come on!... it's trademark Griff.

WHY DID THE JAYS TRY SO HARD TO GET RID OF ALEX RIOS, THEIR ONLY ALL-STAR?

Why do lemmings feel obliged to plunge off a cliff? It makes no sense, yet they do it year after year. When Carlos Delgado was their best player, the Jays couldn't wait to get rid of him. When Wells replaced Delgado as their top talent, the team tried for two years to pawn him off before finally giving up and signing him long-term. Now that Alex Rios has established himself, Toronto tried to trade him for Brad Penny in '06 and Tim Lincecum last season. Both efforts ultimately failed, so they will sign him long-term. The common thread is that none of the three were drafted or signed by the current regime.


I'd pick apart more of the entire article, but this is really the pièce de résistance. I mean, holy shit!...

1) Why did they try so hard? You mean that one trade offer that they left in the Giants hands for a little over a week? Yeah, they really went fucking nuts trying to offer him around.

2) It makes no sense? Jesus. Rather than letting me explain again how the Lincecum offer exactly mades sense, maybe go look at some Giants blogs and note the reaction their fans had to the proposal. They basically went apeshit over the idea of offering their young ace (and his two additional years of control) for Rios. What might this tell us?

3) Carlos fucking Delgado??? So you're saying the Jays wouldn't have been better off by trading him? Because that's what it looks like you're saying. And that would make you a retard.

4) So wait a second... does Griffin think JP was right to sign Vernon long-term? It sure as fuck sound like it, doesn't it? How else are we supposed to take that? If it was a mistake to try to trade him, then it was good to sign him long term. Right? Well, stop the fucking presses! Griffin agrees with something the Jays did! And now we can all breathe easy knowing that we'll have seven years of Griffin not bitching about Vernon's contract-- because, I mean, if he ever did, he'd be completely full of shit, and how could one of the most respected baseball writers in the country possibly be full of shit?

5) The common thread is that none of the three were drafted or signed by the current regime? Well fuck. I guess that's why they've tried so hard to trade Roy Halladay, eh you fucking idiot?

How does this pass for knowledgeable baseball commentary in this city?

From the 8% Codeine Never Hurt Anybody Department...

Hey, Chris Berman likes coming to Toronto! I'd tell you why, but it's much more fun to hear him explain it himself!
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16 comments:

Tao of Stieb said...

"Deux deux deux"

That's what's going to be running though our head. All fucking day. Eh?

Oxfodd said...

What I find funny are the people that complain about the tickets are the same group that never go to a game. I have no problem with the Jays trying to fill the seats, since the people of Toronto don't do it. The place sits at 30-40% of capacity. There are several places where Jays tickets are already open to the public. I have had about 6 offers in my email this week alone. People in Toronto just love to complain, if it isn't about the Leafs, then they have to find some other stupid thing to fight about.

Ryan said...

I used to think all this badgering of our wonderful Toronto Star writer to be a bit too far, and slightly over-dramatic. I mean, I don't disagree with your opinion of the man, but holy shit, if today's article doesn't prove that Griffin is a Douche, I don't know what does. Please note the 'D' in Douche is capatilized, thus giving our boy Griffin a new name.

Oh, and thank you for being probably the best baseball writers in the city.

Torgen said...

I love how they add, "their only all-star," to the description of Rios, as though that's an objective measurement.

taylor said...

Chris Berman never disappoints.

Joanna said...

The problem is not that the Jays are offering tickets to other teams' fans, it's that they are doing it before they offer it to the locals (all of them). It's a timing thing. Just offer them all at the same time, and it ceases to be shitty.

stoeten said...

Chris Berman is so amazing it hurts.

Oxfodd... I don't think I really agree. I actually haven't seen all that much complaining about this. Yeah, we're complaining, but we were also at almost all of the games last year. And like I said here, the issue isn't that they're being offered to other fans-- that's great, sell as many seats as you can-- it's that they're being offered to them before most of Toronto can get them. I don't even mind that the few fans who've decided to accept the Jays spam emails all winter will get the first shot, but it's a slap in the face to make the same offer to fans of other teams while the vast majority of the ticket-buying public in Toronto sits around waiting for them to go up for sale through the usual channels.

I mean, even if I did accept that the email offers to Jays fans change everything (which I don't), how fucked is it to say, "If you want to get your Jays tickets at the same time as fans in Boston and Detroit do, signup to receive our pointless spam emails!"

Sure it's probably good for the team in the short term to let the visiting fans have some choice seats-- they'll probably actually take the Jays up on the offer, unlike fans here-- but if you look at the big picture and you want the team to succeed, the best thing for the team would be to see the game grow in this town. Treating your bread and butter like second class citizens is hardly the way to do that.

And, I mean, if the objective is only to fill every seat no matter how you can, why not start having seventh-inning wet t-shirt contests or publically executing the loser of the chili race? Fuck. Where are the Gliebermans when you need them?

Anonymous said...

Yeah, that Delgado trade was awesome! I love what the jays got for him.

Yaksman said...

Wait, so Dick is saying that it was a bad move to try to trade Rios for Penny?
Penny won 16 games for the past 2 seasons and has some pretty nasty stuff.

Servo said...

The bit I like is that lemmings don't jump off cliffs. That's a myth created by Disney when they used to make nature documentaries.

Oxfodd said...

There are lots of opportunities for Jays fans to get tickets. I am on a couple forums, ordered merchandise online, etc. I must not have checked off the don't send me promos box. Also, flex packs, seasons tickets, Toronto star pass have all been available for some time. Without clarification as to how many (because if it's something like 500, who cares) tickets were made available, how are they checking to see if you are really a fan of the team being offered (what's stopping Jays fans from buying these same tickets? Or, are the Jays Ad people just being original by marketing to the opposing fans, not favouring them), and, finally, how can we get Berman to throw out the first pitch. I'll chip in with a bottle of 222's.

pills.pills.pills said...

Berman is getting ripped I pay 4.95 for a 100 deux deux deux's.

mmm...codeine

Tao of Stieb said...

Oxfodd: You sure you don't work in the Jays ticket office?

So, yeah, everbody's received the Jays inside pitch emails, and if people were willing to cough up for a Flex Pack or season's tickets, then yeah, they aren't losing out.

The point is that the team is expending their energies to actively entice fans of other teams to come to home games because they think that Toronto fans are too apathetic and too hard to sell to.

And to think that is one thing, but to wave it around like a freak flag at a pride day parade is another.

(And with this comment, we have officially expended our last ounce of energy on this topic. That's it. No more.)

Torgen said...

pills: I think he was talking about $10 for a 250 count.

stoeten said...

It's deep into day two and I could still listen to Chris Berman talk about "Canadian Aspirin" for hours. That is fucking MAGIC.

Lloyd "the barber" Moseby said...

You're with me, chemical dependancy

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