STAIRS DFA! SNIDER CALLED UP!
Seriously. (Most likely because of Stairs' aversion to replay, IMHO)
Drunken hysterical reaction pending!
DRUNKEN HYSTERICAL REACTION
Ho-lee shee-it, some delusional GM-- of a contending team, no less! (UPDATE: It's the Phillies)-- has apparently decided to take Matt Stairs off the Jays hands!
That's aweroweeerrrowwrnnshoowwrrnome!
But before you get all stupid assfuck commenters on me here for saying that, let's face it, Stairs has kind of been terrible this year. I fucking love the guy, and last year he was great way beyond expectations, and I'm going to miss the loss of the one actual Jay who might have realistically got shitfaced with us on the podcast. But...
Hold on, hold on. Wait a second. Shit. Stairs was pure class going out of town, and I can't do him like this. Fuckin' eh Matty. Here's what he told the National Post:
"I told them, if I was swinging the bat extremely well, if I put up the numbers like I did last year or whatever, we wouldn't be in this situation," he said.
Twice before he made it to the playoffs, and he looks forward to reaching the post-season again. But he would have preferred to do it as a Blue Jay.
"Nothing would have been better than to go down friggin' Yonge Street and celebrating with the guys I became really close with in the last year and a half," he said. "To me the greatest city in the world is Toronto. I'm not saying that because I played there or I'm a Canadian. It's a city I've always loved."
He had nothing but praise for the club that is cutting him loose.
"I enjoyed my time and the fans were unbelievable. The organization was unbelievable. I had a blast."
Friggin' Yonge Street!!!!
Alright, so one last time, I guess, I find myself apologizing to Matt Stairs. He had an outstanding season last year, and it would have been nice to see him play out the string as a Jay, but it's also great that he'll get to play some playoff ball. Obviously the guy is total class. See you at the WBC, buddy. Good times.
(Besides, how could I have ever possibly topped the bootfucking Jay Mariotti's ex Chicago Sun-Times colleagues gave him on the way out the door? Pure. Awesome.)
As for Snider... sure. Why not?
I'm too drunk-- on Brava, no less!-- to worry about free agency time lines and whether he's actually "earned it", or "can handle it", or "did well at Triple-A", right at the moment. No, I think this first taste of what Snider can do is something that a lot of Jays fans are going to tune in for, and as cynical as I'd like to be about that-- and it's pretty fucking cynical, I tell you what-- fuck it, you can group me in with the dumb fucks who are 100% on board.
Yeah, JP is probably just pushing for more ratings and some good PR by calling up Snider instead of, say, Buck Coates. And he very well could be starting the process of robbing future Jays teams of a year of Snider's control for the sake of getting a good look at him and creating a small buzz (I haven't actually looked into what this might mean as far as abitration eligibility goes-- and frankly, at the moment, I feel lucky that I can come that close to correctly spelling "arbitration eligibility" on the first try) but... again, fuck it. If the kid nails it, tell Manny to go fuck himself and push hard for some pitching in the off-season. Let's fucking do this.
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about time you fackers woke up to this! Gimme a B!
Thats just lazy journalism right there. MLBastion has several paragraphs. Segue - anyone else think he sounded testy on the podcast - "i'm a real journo"...
hey, i got a boner
Jesus Fuck.
That's madness
A couple of things.
First, I'm glad for Stairs that he gets to go to a contender. He's never won a championship in his career, and it's definitely one that is winding down quickly. It's also a good trade by the Jays as they get rid of Stairs' final year on the contract (though I'm assuming that they'll probably pick up some of it for the other team), freeing up some money for FA spending in the winter.
And then the major news, Snider being called up. As much as I'm excited about this, I can't help but feel that JP is rushing him. He's only 20 years old (outside of Kershaw, would that make him the youngest player in the majors right now?), and he hasn't even had full seasons at the AA or AAA levels. He wasn't even doing that well in AA (.807 OPS) for that matter. Is this an effort by JP to show his star prospect with one last-gasp effort to save his job? Will it come at the expense of Snider's development?
I think Stairs is due something along the lines of $1 million next year, so him being dealt doesn't free up a lot of money.
Any guesses as to where he's headed?
Did my own homework for once: Wilner's saying Dodgers....
Riccardi hates Canada.
Yes, Let's fucking do this indeed.
Fucking rights. Losing this series means the season is O-V-E-R as far as PLAYOFFS! are concerned, so why the fuck not? If he can't handle it, he goes to the AFL and starts next year in AAA. If he can, great - potential bat for next season.
But you could have left Buck Coats out of this, you ass hole stoeten.
100% class by Stairsy - talking the blame for the team's offensive woes. What a guy.
They were on the hook for 1M next year with Stairs, and a few hundred grand the rest of this year.
I'm going to stay up all night watching 80's hair metal videos (or as I call it, rock n' roll) on youtube and refreshing the internet for Jays-realted news.
I'm not a fucking nerd or anything.
How about they don't tell Manny to go fuck himself, and actually sign him, while moving one of Snider or Lind to first?
This blog pumps me up
Let's fucking do this...
Rosenthal has Stairs going to Philly for a prospect.
Rosenthal also has AIDS. Think about it!
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8501292/Sources:-Phils-get-Stairs-from-Blue-Jays
Whoa.
This is not my batman glass.
What my post presupposes is, maybe it is?
Hopefully Jason Donald is coming over (though I'm probably being overly-hopeful). Honestly, considering Snider's makeup, I can't see one month in the majors fucking up his long term development. Beyond being a PR move, he'll probably do more than Stairs would have - we are not in a playoff race, but I still wouldn't mind beating the yankees.
I'm already way past that. The Mariotti article is so fucking great. Like twelve times Snider great. Ahhhhhh!
It won't be Jason Donald, or anyone worth a damn.
Wildcat. . .
Travis Snider's unofficial nick name should be Big Baby Jesus...
Wow. I'm just reading this now, and I suppose I have to be the dissenting voice of reason that thinks that calling up Snider is the most fucking ridiculous thing I can remember in a while.
I'm not worried about his development being fast-tracked. It's more about why the fuck would you dick around with future arbitration eligibility?
For what? For what?
Honestly, is he going to be a better ballplayer in the future because he spent a month with the big club when he was twenty?
Fuck this.
I'm also sorry to see Stairs go. Not in a talent or overall contribution to the team sense, but just because he was always AOK in my books.
Fuck. This is depressing. Not happy times. Unless you read that Mariotti piece.
That was fucking nails.
Parkes, quit being a wet blanket, what with all your logic and thinking and stuff. This is awesome!
I might be wrong on this, but don't September call-ups not count against ML service time? Couldn't they wait three days and then call him up?
This won't be a year of control over Snider down the drain- one month of service time isn't going to come close to affecting his arbitration years. Sure, he's going to do jack in the majors as a 20-year-old, but even though it's pointless, unless you think they're going to need his options in the future, calling him up now isn't such a big deal - unless they were going to pull a Lind on him next season....
This is questionable. I mean, yeah, Stairs sucked this season. But damn, what a strange move.
who gives a fuck about arbitration, like its your money anyways?
this is exciting, whens the last time we had a huge prospect like this get called up
1. This is sad news.
2. I don't want to watch Snider go 2 for 35 and then have to hear an entire winter of "Snider's a bust".
I have no source, but I think September doesn't count for rookies, so this'll add up to 2 days MLB service time for Snider... no real difference at all.
But so sad to see Stairsy go, 2nd-Best-Blue-Jay-Ever, maybe?
I have no idea who perpetuated this myth, but it has spread faster than AIDS - September callups count as MLB service time (and why the fuck WOULDN'T they?).
There are 2 sides to this Snider coin.
1- This is a move that could potentially cost the Jays games from Snider in his prime, at 27/28. There's also the possibility he does terribly and shatters some confidence, but from all accounts we've heard he's a real tough kid and 1 month of mediocre MLB hitting should do nothing to hurt him.
2- The Jays try to give him as much playing time as possible to see what the chances are he can break camp with the team in 2009. If that's possible, they could even go the route of signing him to a long-term deal, to avoid the Longoria mess where the player is good enough to be in the bigs but you want to keep him down for a couple of weeks for cost certainty in 7 years. If he shows a lot to upper management, they may be inclined to spend a lil less on a DH, and perhaps make that acquisition into a RHB instead of the often-assumed LHB. This way he could be used at 1B vs. LHP, which could do a lot to boost this offense. Then you go spend that money either on AJ himself or replacing him with a stud like Sheets. This team needs a serious #2 (and not to rely on Marcum/McGowan) if they really think they are going to contend next year.
2 sounds good to me.
Ok, I admit to being wrong about that. But did you know that you can get AIDS from kissing a public toilet seat? Or... if your hand is bigger than your face, you definitely have AIDS.
The last top prospect the Jays called up like this, Stairs24? Well it was probably Josh Phelps 6 years ago. I can't think of anybody more recently that would fall into that category of elite prospect like Snider.
Speaking of Phelps, let's bring him back to platoon with Lyle!
And just because it isn't "our money," it doesn't mean stuff like arbitration shouldn't be considered when evaluating a call-up like this.
It's a very puzzling move by JP, really.
Who knows how next year will play out but bringing up Snider now and keeping him up won't even come close to make him eligible to become a super 2 player. He shouldn't be eligible for arbitration until after 2011 regardless. If they had called him up in May or June he could have potentially been eligible after 2010.
Well, good for Stairs and getting a shot at post season ball--he should do O.K. in that ballpark (.444/.516/1.185 in eight games). I liked him more as a bench guy than a full time DH at this point but it’s nice to see him land in a good spot.
I’m not worried about Snider’s confidence--heck, if he has a bad month I’d just be reminding him all winter “Listen Travis, you don‘t suck--you made the show at age 20 fergawdsake … guys who suck don‘t make the bigs before 21.”
If he outhits Brad Wilkerson (.163/.263/.250 in the Cito era) they can point out that he did better than J.P.s No.1 man-crush.
Geez, the Jays hold the Rays to four runs in the final two games of the series and lose them both. That’s eighteen losses in games holding the opposing team to three or fewer runs.
This is on Ricciardi--had he picked up a little more offense when it was obvious the team couldn’t score runs and chances are Toronto is in the wild card hunt. Just a league average DH and not wasting so many AB on guys like Wilkerson/Stewart/Mench and we wouldn’t need a Rockies type miracle to make the post season.
Ah well … bring it on. Cheer up Dustin, at least he ended up in a park he should mash in and we can cheer him (hopefully) in October.
BTW … anybody else notice Carlos Delgado is up to 30 HR? The doubleheader against the Yankees in late June really woke him up--he’s been hitting .310/.402/.648 (19 HR) since then and .279/.361/.548 (27 HR) after hitting below the Mendoza Line in April.
Best Regards
John
I wasn't expecting the Stairs thing, but I was pretty much expecting Snider to get called up at some point before the end of the season. If September doesn't count towards service time, then why not?
September counts toward service time, it does NOT use up an option, however...
Also, 15 years, $130M deal coming next week for the wunderkind?
I think Delgado is having his last hurrah before the big fork in the sky takes him IMO. Counting on him to have a big season would be more than foolish.
-brent in Korea
All I have to say is that Stairs is class act he could have been a whiny bitch like Thomas but he took it like a pro.
Its' possible JP wants TS to get some major league atbats under his belt while he is swinging a hot stick.
this is awesome
i'm pretty sure this is JP saying 'fuck this, i'm sick of this bullshit offense. i don't give a shit about arbitration eligibility i want to win some goddamn ballgames!'
and i am ok with that!
I love Stairs and wish him well, but he just stopped producing with the Jays, so I a glad to see this move happen.
The Jays should be looking to dump these types of players. Next should be Mac, Eckstein, Zaun,and Bautista.
**Good luck Matthew - Although I would perfer to see King Carlos in the playoffs.
Stairs, we'll miss you and your Nova Scotian ways.
Snider, welcome aboard! I get to see the kid from the nosebleeds at Yankee Stadium tomorrow. I am SO wearing my Olerud powder-blues, Yanks fans be damned.
Pitching? The Jays have all the pitching in the world, they need offense. They made Garza and Jackson look like Cy Young! They need lethal hitters like Manny and Thome.Got that wrong Stoeten.........
Fuck people,
Most players that age - 27 - are inked to long-term deals if they're worth a damn at that time anyway. Plus, we'll have some heavy deals coming off the books then.
Right? or am I wrong? Am I wrong here? am I wrong? fucking nihilists, never changes.
Salut, Matt Stairs
This makes sense. No sense in not having something to get excited about the rest of the year. In the end it's supposed to be about entertainment.
Aside from the "entertainment" factor I'd love to see Snider hit well. If he comes up here and kicks ass we can trade him for Lincecum in the off-season. Rowand hasn't done the job so I'm sure SF won't say back out this time.
In defence of my claiming McDonald was hot in some previous posts:
Okay, here's what gave me the impression he was hot:
August 10 - 22
13/41 - 0.317 avg with 4 doubles.
2/17 since.
So there. I wasn't all that wrong.
Sorry for using "we". I meant "the Jays". I, for one, will have little to do with any trades that take place.
I just went on a roller coaster of emotions and opinions after hearing about this. The Stairs thing doesnt surprise me but the Snider call-up does. Then I like any other Jays fan who doesn't give a fuck at this point said
BRING IT ON MOTHERFUCKER BRING IT ON!
Arbitration eligibility be damned.
Hats off to Stairs (Stairsy?), classy guy. I'd still like to see Carlos in the playoffs though.
Oh and Brattain, don't think I didn't notice your little rant on Mencherson again, you sneaky bastard.
i like stairs, but he wasn't doing anything but sitting on the bench --- nice guy, hope he gets a shot in philly
http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/64090
if the yanks get aj, how much of his contract, if any, will they take?
Sadly - I'm inclined to side with Parkes on this one.
Giving up a year of control for a month's worth of ABs in the bigs seems like it could be a waste. If Snider doesn't perform well enough to break camp with the team next spring as at least a platoon player this will be a mistake.
The Jays better give him full playing time and hope he continues to rake the ball like he has at every level so thus far.
I'm excited to see him play but I'm a skeptical about the move. It almost feels like JP wants to ensure he gets to see the top prospect in action in case someone else is at the helm next year.
Is this really the best way to put the club in position to contend for 2009 or is simply JP trying to save his hide?
Don't get me wrong, I'm excited to see how Snider performs, it just seems a bit rushed. If he tears up the bigs and makes the roster next year I'll be very happy.
If he regresses at all or doesn't show enough to play in the majors next spring, I'll consider this a poor personel decision and pray JP is out of town in 09.
For all the bitching and moaning that we hear about not having a payroll to compete in this division - giving up a year's control on your top prospect is a big deal.
Regardless, I wish I was road tripping to NY to see the debut live.
Brent:
I think Delgado is having his last hurrah before the big fork in the sky takes him IMO. Counting on him to have a big season would be more than foolish.
Well, that wasn't a hint on my part that I'd like to see him back in Toronto (unless it was a one-year reasonably priced contract) just a happy note about a guy for whom I've always rooted.
After all, he could be the first home grown Blue Jay to mash 500 HR and it looked as if he would fall short.
A decent September where he finishes up with 35-36 HR would leave him less than two decent seasons away from 500.
Quite frankly, a lot of the guys I've heard some stump for as our next DH (Thome, Giambi) worry me since I see another Big Hurt debacle. I hope whoever the Jays sign has more than one year left in the tank.
Oh and Brattain, don't think I didn't notice your little rant on Mencherson again, you sneaky bastard.
Who's sneaky?
Hey, I've gotta be me ;-)
Best Regards
John
Logic aside,
I'll miss you Mr. Steps. Good luck in Philly.
Snider alone isn't the answer to the offence for next year. He may hit OKAY may as well let him develop more in the minors and then have him further down the line. He probably won't be an impact allstar right away. I would still sign a Manny Ramirez type to DH or possibly get offense out of SS position. Furcal wants to stay in LA but if they blow them out of the water, it might be worth it (in this scenario, Snider would be here instead of a Manny type).
@jay
Shhhhhhhh. Stop making so much sense! It's killing everyone's collective boner. We can go back to being depressed later.
For all the bitching and moaning that we hear about not having a payroll to compete in this division - giving up a year's control on your top prospect is a big deal.
hm yes riccardi has quite the record of letting key players hit FA like hill, rios, halladay, and welseriously they can just lind him in the minors for a little while extra if they're worried about him being a super2
snider is already a top-10 prospect, so its not like calling him up fits under the 'trying to look good to save his job' bullshit. if anything, it goes against it since the only real perception-changing possibility is that snider could struggle
hth
best regards
johN
the only way these 30 days will hurt down the road is if the jays call up snider for good starting next july, cuz then he'll rack up around 100 days of service time and these 30 could make him a Super2 after 2011
since im hoping snider impresses enough to break camp with the team next year (and likely JP is thinking along the same lines) this should have little effect on his arb status.
I don't recall Frank Thomas being a whiny bitch...he was pretty amicable when he was leaving.
Anon 9:50: Re: Pitching: "All the pitching in the world"? That's why John Parrish and Scott Richmond were making starts this year? With AJ leaving and Marcum/Janssen/Litsch/McGowan all having question marks, yeah, going out and getting another pitcher is a good move.
Everybody else: I agree, it seems odd to potentially give up a year of free agency at Snider's peak, but I do understand wanting to see how he handles himself at the big league level. If he excels, why not pencil him into the DH/OF spot next year and then use your surplus cash elsewhere? Or at least, use less of it and just get a lesser, established DH type who won't pull a Frank Thomas when he is inevitably replaced by the kid.
I don't know... there's some logic to that, I think. And the issue of his one month of service time goes away if you keep him in the minors to start next year. No?
Anon: 12:51: Frank said the right things, but the understanding was that he was sulking because he was being benched, and they felt they could neither bench him nor drop him in the order without creating a major distraction, so the situation was supposedly untenable. And hey... what's this? $10 million?!!
Re: Pitching: "All the pitching in the world"? That's why John Parrish and Scott Richmond were making starts this year? With AJ leaving and Marcum/Janssen/Litsch/McGowan all having question marks, yeah, going out and getting another pitcher is a good move.
They made 3 spot starts each due to lengthy injuries to two major starts. And they weren't bad for emergency call-ups. And how many teams DON'T have questions about their rotations? I'd say zero. Add in Cecil, both Romeros, Janssen, and possibly even Wolfe if needed and the Jays have enviable pitching depth. I think we can get away with not going after an FA pitcher.
...but, to clarify, I'd still love it if my FA of choice Derek Lowe is a Jay next year.
Derek Lowe would be fucking fantastic in front of the Jays infield D. The guy has the 2nd best GB% in baseball (only Webb is better), and induces them at the rate Doc used to 03-05. He's a guy you can sign for a reasonable contract and realistically expect a sub 3.75era.
Derek Lowe would be fucking fantastic in front of the Jays infield D. The guy has the 2nd best GB% in baseball (only Webb is better), and induces them at the rate Doc used to 03-05. He's a guy you can sign for a reasonable contract and realistically expect a sub 3.75era.
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